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I would never actually want to own a pub. At least I’d never want to the be the owner / manager of a pub.  It strikes me as a job with long hours, which requires compulsory sociability and which isn’t particularly financially rewarding. Also, you don’t get to sit and enjoy the beer. I’m much more likely to set up a rum distillery in Grenada than a pub but in keeping with my general life philosophy, often discussed with MLW(1) and widgetfox (2) that all of life can be usefully considered in terms of a top ten list here are the top ten of names I would give my pub if I owned one.

  1. The Fighting Thomas Cochraine (in honour of my favourite Georgian naval captain, radical politician and the larger than fiction model for Lucky Jack Aubrey)
  2. The Monkey Puzzle
  3. The Preferential Vote
  4. The Righteously Bare Arms (this pub would feature a weekly burlesque evening)
  5. The Gravitas Out
  6. The Twenty-First Amendment (clearly an over 21 only venue)
  7. The Spanker (if the pub were near a yachting club)
  8. The Gastro-Pub at the End of the Street
  9. The Truth in Comedy
  10. The John Cartwright

(1) my list of top sandwiches (3) was included in MLW’s speech at our wedding.

(2) I actually have a top ten of widgetfoxes.

(3) pastrami, gherkin, tomato, with whole-grain mustard on a savoury bagel.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Does your top ten of widgetfoxes somehow have more content than (1) widgetfox (2) widgetfox (3) widgetfox (4) widgetfox (5) widgetfox (6) widgetfox (7) widgetfox (8) widgetfox (9) widgetfox (10) widgetfox?

Date: 2013-01-16 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Are you going to share it with your expectant public?

Date: 2013-01-16 04:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
If they wish.

It was a hard job narrowing it down to a top ten.

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Date: 2013-01-16 04:28 pm (UTC)
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Expectant always makes me think of pregnant women.

Although my best understanding of the situation is that only one member of what might be called my public is currently pregnant.

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Date: 2013-01-16 04:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I saw that.

The post title wasn't the main driver for this post.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
No, it was your fourth pub that made me think of it.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Ah, yes.

I dare say that in another political environment my top 4 pub name would not be the Righteously Bare Arms but would probably still involve some form of burlesque or music hall (not that the Truth in Comedy doesn't involve some decendent of music hall.)

I think there is a great deal of money, sorry, sociological insight to be gained by comparing top tens on various subjects over time.

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Date: 2013-01-16 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hano.livejournal.com
Oooh, good call.
1. The Admiral Cunningham (in honour of Admiral Andrew Cunningham 'ABC' the Royal Navy's finest fighting sailor since Nelson.
2. The Cat (in honour of, well, take a wild guess)
3. The Stone Rose (this'd be the pub with a 200 capacity music venue round the back and a jukebox full of punk, post punk and indie tunes, as selected by me)
4. The Gym (just so people can say 'I've been to the Gym for two hours' and feel virtuous
5. The Very Little Gravitas Indeed (with apologies to IMB)
6. The Red Flag (the local left need somewhere to meet and discuss revolution after all. Genuine socialists/revolutionaries/insurgents get half price beer. Just no guns or explosives in the bar please)

I had others, but I'm damned if I can remember them.
All establishments will of course have excellent Cask Marqued Ale, such that they're in the CAMRA guide. Any manager who fails to attain this standard of excellence will immediately be fired. Out of a large cannon.
There wil be lots of good reasonably priced food, a library room and the only sports shown are rugby and cricket. (GAA games available upon request) and all will several cats overseeing the place and making sure you all behave.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hano.livejournal.com
Also, anyone in possession of a copy of the Daily Mail will be politely asked to leave. Repeat offenders will be sent to pub #6 for rehabilitation.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I could use your arms on the pub signage.

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Date: 2013-01-16 04:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I'm liking those.

I think there are insufficient pubs named after 20th or 21st century notables.

Watched a documentary about Malta during WWII a few days ago. Your man ABC not mentioned but can't imagine he'd have been delighted when the desperately required convoy got sunk in port three days after arriving.

Very much endorsing the Cask Marqued Ale requirement. I'd be tempted to go further and not have any cooking lager or cooking bitter on at all, just for the cognitive dissonance caused to people who ask for a well advertised brand and find I don't sell it. This, of course, depends, on the pubs being a hobby and not my actual source of income.

Date: 2013-01-16 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hano.livejournal.com
Some other 20th C notables could be:
The Sidney Camm (designer of the Hawker Hurricane, Tempest, Fury & Hunter to name but a few)
The Barnes Wallace (complete with a picture of a bouncing bomb for the pub sign...)
The Roy Chadwick (designed the Lancaster and Vulcan bombers)
The General Slim (After Bill Slim of Burma)


Also The Three Pigs in Corsham has a sign above the door that says 'This is a real ale pub. Lager drinkers will be tolerated as long as they keep quiet' a sentiment I've always rather admired. It's certainly possible to run a successful pub without selling the usual crap beer, you just have to make sure that you make it a selling point and that it's well publicised.
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Date: 2013-01-16 04:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
I think you should have a pub called Ukip if you want to, the laddie's not for kipping.

Date: 2013-01-16 05:02 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-01-16 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
The Purple Rosette
The Ruddy Farage
The Ayn Rand Social Club
The Bercow
The Fighting Bull
The Kipper Libra

Date: 2013-01-16 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hano.livejournal.com
The Farage
The Hannan
The Redwood

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Date: 2013-01-16 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hano.livejournal.com
Also, wouldn't a pub called The Spanker appeal to the BDSM crowd?

Date: 2013-01-16 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Nautical BDSM types.

Rum, sodomy and the lash.

Date: 2013-01-16 10:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
I assume that two of those are cocktails :->

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Date: 2013-01-16 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Actually, if you got rum and sodomy _at_ The Lash then it would be a great gay naval pub.

Date: 2013-01-16 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Also, surely most pubs would be best named after Culture vessels?

Date: 2013-01-17 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I think it would make a great brand for a small pub chain.

The Sweet and Full of Grace

Well I Was In The Neighbourhood

Just Passing Through

Fine names for pubs one and all.

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