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I find myself on the horns of a dilemma.

I’m trying to set up a programme of speakers for the 2013 Edinburgh Democracy User Group In the Pub meetings. One of our decisions at the planning meeting for this was to invite all the major political parties to send a speaker to talk to us about their parties core values and how they make decisions internally.

My working definition of “major” is any British party that holds a seat at the European, Westminster or Holyrood Parliaments. I’ve excluding Welsh and Northern Irish parties on the grounds of logistics, although if anyone can find a Plaid Cymru member in Edinburgh I’d be delighted to buy them a pint of Brains.

So, I’ve invited Conservative, Labour, SNP, Lib Dem, Green, Respect and UKIP speakers.

It’s not that I’m not happy to have speakers from other parties. I’d be delighted but my first objective is to invite the major parties and I wanted a rule of thumb to apply when I said I was going to spend time trying to get a speaker from X party but not as much time trying to get a speaker from Y party.

The problem is, my definition of major includes the BNP. They currently hold two seats at the European Parliament.

I’m genuinely in two minds about inviting them to speak. On the grounds that they have a democratic mandate should we engage with them. Should we deny them a platform because they are anti-democratic (and are they anti-democratic?)  Are we wiser if we know our enemy or is a fool’s errand to give them a platform?

Suggestions from the floor welcome.

Date: 2012-10-09 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
There are a few forums to engage in that conversation.

And plenty of time to have the conversation.

Date: 2012-10-09 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
True. And the conversation needs to be between people, not factions.

Date: 2012-10-09 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Would that we had numbers enough for factions.

But you're right.

Not sure how to cultivate that TBH.

Date: 2012-10-10 07:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
The more I reflect on this thread, the more I think that now is not the time to make the decision. You don't have to arrange all the sessions now. Over the next few months, you will get to know the user group better and you will understand how the sessions work in practice. Let the conversation evolve.

Put differently, this is not a theoretical problem. It is a practical one, and as such can only be solved in practice.

Date: 2012-10-10 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yes, thinking about this overnight, I agree.

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