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Pretty decent shows over the weekend. The opening number on the Saturday night was perhaps the best opening to any Strictly Come Dancing show ever. The combination of Tess and Claudia seems to be working okay so far. I remain to be convinced that Tess has the necessary gravitas (1) to keep the judges under control and balance the judges, audience and contestants.

One thing I’m going to be watching is how much Craig, Bruno and to a lesser extent Darcey play up to an exaggerated version of themselves. How grumpy can Craig be? How mad as a box of mad frogs out of their heads on LSD and being carried on the back of Salvador Dali’s bicycle can Bruno be?

Now, the dancing.

Lovely waltz from Mmmh Frankie. A clear and deserved lead. Decent performances from Flack Jacket Caroline and That’s Your Lott. My draw in the office sweeper looks okay for the time being. Perhaps the surprise dance of the night was Can’t See the Wood’s Tango. A bit stompy but very dramatic. I also enjoyed Dangerous Steve’s Tango. Good pro tips from Craig on how to manage his muscular arms. Dangerous Steve may be a good outside bet.

I was surprised by how well Reality Hammond did. I was not expecting her to perform so well. I thought she flagged a little at the end of her routine. I wonder if we’ll see a virtuous circle of improving physical fitness leading to improved performance leading to staying in and getting fitter.

The usual caveats about this only being one poll, you have to look at the trend, and individual constituencies enjoy differential incumbency factors only being one week, you have to look at the trend and different couples suit different dances.

At the bottom end of the leaderboard Pudding Loving Gregg, Unfortunately Named Tim, Hey Jude, Not Jennifer Grey and bringing up the rear Scott Mills in the AfternooOOOoon. No surprises there. Time to see who the public favour. Anyone in the bottom five gets put out in the dance off by anyone not in the bottom five at the moment. Will a week and another dance be enough to shift the scores.

With the exception of the surprisingly good tango from Can’t See the Woods the general trend of predictions look okay. I might be tempted to swap out Thom “Dripping” Evans from the Semi-Final list and put Can’t See the Woods in but I think Evans will have the public vote behind him.

Which leads me to Bookies’ Corner.

This year I’m recording the William Hill straight win odds for each contestant each week.

The favourite before the dancing was Pixie Lott at 3/1. She’s now fallen back a little 4/1 with Mmmh Frankie the new favourite at 3/1 from 9/2. She’s the big mover. Going the other way Thom Evans moves out from 4/1 to 6/1. At 16/1 I think I’d fancy Dangerous Backshall. I’m going to run a shadow “investment” portfolio and see if I can come out ahead. (2)

I’ll mainly be watching to see if the odds move in unexpected ways which might indicate that voting information is leaking out.

(1) You Want Me To Grab Its What? ROU (Murderer Class)

(2) Or if not ahead at least only behind the Baby Faced Assassin.

Date: 2014-09-30 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
I thought pretty much the same, especially about Jake and Steve (both of whom I thought slightly overmarked compared to Pixie, who did really well).

Thom is the big question mark. If he settles down and works, he could get the Journey vote. If not, he risks being Pendleton.

Date: 2014-09-30 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I wonder if we are Darcey watch againt?

Date: 2014-09-30 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Specifically whether she marks men higher than women.

Date: 2014-09-30 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
I think that would be interesting. You need to compare with aggregate marks (or sans Darcey marks, or both) to ensure it isn't just that the men are better this year. Although I think that's unlikely given Pixie and #Frankie.

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Date: 2014-09-30 11:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yeah I think Pixie will be disappointed not to have squeezed an extra mark out of the judges.

Thom, Thom, Thom - what is to be done.

I think financially he more than anyone stands to gain from doing well.

Date: 2014-09-30 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Massive unknown factors. It depends on (i) his strength of character and (ii) his actual dancing ability and (iii) whether he and Iveta are really in love and (iv) what that brings out in him if so. Possibly also (v) how much attention he pays to press coverage and (vi) what line they decide to take.

Date: 2014-09-30 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I don't know much about him but I think his strength of character will be higher than average judging by his recovery from a pretty horrible injury.

Date: 2014-09-30 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Fair comment.

JW is contemptuous of him, and every time they show his try says "That's his only try."

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Date: 2014-09-30 10:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
That said, I struggle with a critique of judge self-parody that does not refer to Len Goodman.

Date: 2014-09-30 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
It’s about the information content for me.

Len plays and plays up to the Uncle Len role but what he actually says and the volume of the remarks remains constant (I think). He can avuncularly tell you that you’ve done badly, or done well or need to change X but the tone is separate from the intensity of action required on your part.

For Craig and Bruno I think they risk reducing the amount of information their comments contain by playing up to their role.

Bruno is over-excitable. If you do something good he stands up and whirls round. The more he plays up to that role the less you can believe that he actually *is* too excited to contain himself and the more you might think he doesn’t really mean it, it’s just time for Bruno to jump out of his seat and trigger some avuncular business with Len.

Similarly Craig. When he’s doing good judging he provides blunt but constructive criticism. If I were a contestant I would replay Craig’s commentary, write it down and then work on all the things he mentioned. At times the bluntness becomes brutal and his phrasing can be caustic. I think there is a risk that he plays up to the villain role and is too brutal and too caustic. Too much of that and a contestant is left wondering whether he really means that I’ve done badly or is it just time for the audience to boo and for Tess to flutter her eyelashes at the camera to mollify the audience at home?

Date: 2014-09-30 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Agree re Bruno.

Re Craig - watch the score, not the words. He doesn't hesitate to use the full range.

Date: 2014-09-30 12:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-10-01 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
I'm commenting here just because - well, the two of you have obviously scared everyone else away!

I guess this is what they call an echo chamber...

Date: 2014-10-01 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Or a secret channel of communication between me and my MI6 handler.

Date: 2014-10-01 01:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Surely not MI6.

Maybe an infiltration by ASIS, trying to sway the referendum!

That would explain your summer trip, too...!

Date: 2014-10-01 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Ah, but I was also in DC and the Pacific North West with their own separatist movements and New Zealand and Singapore.

Who am working for? Who do I think I'm working for?

Date: 2014-10-01 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
Obvs the panda separatists.

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Date: 2014-10-01 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
Our is clearly a cross-conspiracy involving the CIA and the Bilderberg group. And the Illuminati. And the ERS.

Clearly you are there inside man at Holyrood.

Or perhaps you are a quadruple agent, really working for the SNP.

That's it, you're definitely Salmond's man!

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Date: 2014-10-01 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
So, Patrick. What are your thoughts on this season's Strictly Come Dancing?

Date: 2014-10-01 01:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
It's fun when I'm watching it. I only saw Friday's show (which I saw on Saturday).

I rather like Judy.

I have no idea who most of them are. I don't think I've seen Frankie at all (which is pleasingly ironic).

But outside of that, it isn't something that I feel bears much thought. At this stage.

Date: 2014-10-01 01:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
I like Judy Murray a lot. I am a sucker for good bone structure. Sadly I don't think the wider public or judges share my view.

Frankie is wonderful! She is about twenty-five and is beautiful with short dark hair. I think she and Kevin are in with a real chance, given how well he did with Susanna who was fifteen years older and didn't start out that good.

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Date: 2014-10-01 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
...Much more interesting is trying to ascertain your role in the whole conspiracy.

Clearly "Team Frankie" is a cover.

But quite why Dan is using you to infiltrate Holloway is another story.

Date: 2014-10-01 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] widgetfox.livejournal.com
He's after the secret North London panda horde.

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Date: 2014-10-01 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Holloway – Holyrood.

Just a phonological change and a rhotacism away from digging a tunnel.

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