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I was corresponding with a USian colleague about the impact of Brexit on our business and offered him some Brexit Buzzwords that he could drop in to conversations in the US so as to appear knowledgable and on the ball.

I offer 15 of them below. Feel free to add your own

  1. Article 50 (has not been invoked)

  2. Corbynista (#JezzWeCan - equivalent to #FeelTheBern)

  3. £350 million

  4. Cornwall (voted for Brexit, would like the UK goverment to guarrantee its EU funding)

  5. Sewell Convention (the memorandum that lays out the process for changing the devolution settlement for Scotland)

  6. Dundalk - Newry crossing - (the bit of the Northern Ireland / Republic of Ireland border with the most traffic - if I recall correctly this is where a senior IRA commander had a farm that literally straddled the border.)

  7. Wiff Waff is Coming Home.

  8. "Actually I've got €50 onTeresa May becoming PM"

  9. The pound, oh my god, the pound.

  10. Kubler Ross Grief Cycle

  11. "Nicola Sturgeon is perhaps the most astute politician in the UK."

  12. #IndyRef2

  13. "Actually I've got €50 on Tom Watson becoming Labour Leader."

  14. Guardian reading metropolitian liberal elite (you say that as if it's a bad thing)

  15. Unwritten constitution.

Date: 2016-06-29 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com

I just read a Facebook post that contained ALL these phrases!

Date: 2016-06-29 11:19 am (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Actually I've got €50 on Tom Watson becoming Labour Leader

I ain't taking that bet.

Money on Tom getting elected leader, that's a bet worth thinking on.

Date: 2016-06-29 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
What do you think the difference would be?

Date: 2016-06-29 02:40 pm (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
The odds of Tom becoming placeholder leader because either Corbyn finally jumps or gets removed somehow are significantly higher than the odds of Tom winning a leadership election against, for example, Jarvis.

I don't actually know if Labour has a way of removing a leader without an actual election, there's also the weirdness of PLP membership and similar, it's all very Interesting Times.

Date: 2016-06-29 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com

From this article and memory.


Corbyn can be challenged and may not even make it on to the ballot

20% of Labour MP's and MEP (about 50) need to back one candidate and notify the NEC. This tiggers a leadership election.

Legal opinion differs on whether Corbyn would need to be nominated in order to appear on the ballot or not. The NEC has to decide this and the Labour Party is probably a "club or private members' organisation" so the rules' committee is not subject to judicial oversite. It's a big call for the NEC.

Date: 2016-06-29 03:41 pm (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Yeah, I read the rules awhileback, to me, and if it were the Lib Dems, it's very clear that "challengers" need to be nominated, an incumbent does not, and the way they're trying to twist their own rulebook that was explicitly written to make leadership challenges hard into one that makes it easy is really nasty.

They don't need it, and if they do just remove him in that way they'll have hell to pay with the members, they need to either have the fight or decide it's not worth it and split.

Date: 2016-06-29 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
It would certainly be better for the Party and for the countries of the UK for him to stand and be beaten than to be kept off the ballot by legalistic jiggery pokery.

Date: 2016-06-29 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenicurean.livejournal.com
Possibly "Norway model", "points-based immigration system", and "Boris's plan?" (Or lack thereof.)

I've talked so much Brexit over the last few days that it's become almost exhausting -- and I can't even begin to think how exhausting it must be for British people!

Date: 2016-06-29 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I think the conversation and associated exhaustion is probably different in different bits of Britain.

English big cities I suspect are exhausted and despondent.

English towns and rural areas are more likely jubilant.

In Scotland there is dismay but also a mulling over of other options and some relief that our politicians, in government and in opposition, seem to have some sort of plan which they have public support for and are working through. I expect this will turn to grim resolution over the coming months.

Nothern Ireland, well Northern Ireland I don't know well but I reckon there will be a lot of genuinely very worried people over there.


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