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The last episode of Doctor Who featured a Bootstrap Paradox. It was a pretty good two-parter and I enjoyed it.


But I can never forget that there lurks, deep in space and time and unimaginable evil. Well, a prosaic script-writer who's gotten a little over excited.

Fuelled by Moff-hate I've got a bootstrap paradox for you.

In the near future humanity invents a time machine. A secret society of disgruntled fans, calling themselves The Daughters of Romana, discover the location of the time machine and steal it with hilarious consequences.

Lost in time they eventually find themselves in the early sixties where they meet Sydney Newman. He's in a pub near Television Centre mulling over how to fulfil the BBC's aims of bringing entertainment and education to the masses. The Daughters of Romana bumble in the pub, full of their own excitement and legacy rightous indignation. The spill Newman's pint. Buying him another they fall into conversation and tell of their adventures. Fascinated but disbelieving Newman buys them all pint after pint in a determined effort to keep the unbelievable stories of their rambling through space-time from the dawn of their Moff-hate to the current day coming.

Now drunk and enraged by the fresh memory of what Moffat has done they take their time machine to the 2003 British Comedy Awards. Coupling, perhaps the best thing Moffat has done receives an award. Moffat has been quaffing the celebratory champers. He's already a little tipsy before the award. By the end of the awards ceremony he's fully cut and singing. The Daughters of Romana confront a drunk Moffat. Demanding an apology for a crime he has not yet committed they confuse Moffat who become beligerant. The beligerant Moffat hits every hot button of our Time Travelling Whovian Ultras. Moffat knows and he's not even sorry. Fear turns to Hate. Hate Turns to Anger. Anger leads to a Five Star Kicking. Punctuating each outrage with a kick or a punch or slap they give vent to their fury with a full list of EVERYTHING he has done.

Moffat, already drunk and now badly beaten slips into unconsciousness. Horrified by what they have done the Daughters of Romana load take their time machine into an ambulance and set of to The Borders Royal Infirmary A&E UNIT with a semi-conscious Moffat.

Moffat comes too in the recovery room with nothing but a vague, drug fuelled but utterly incomprehensible memory of a box with a siren and a very very very important list of timey-wimey wibbley- wobbley, Daleks in every episode, impossible girl astronauts, sonic Sunglasses, Galashiels Burning, nymphomaniac space archaeologists.

That's a bootstrap paradox.

Date: 2015-10-13 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhythmaning.livejournal.com
I didn't rate the story, though of course that's not the point.

Dr Who - being a science fiction based series about time travel - often has stories which feature the bootstrap paradox. Indeed, the last story relied on Dr Who going back to implant a concept in Davros' childhood mind so that it was available to Clara when she was talking through the Dalek.

What I found interesting was that this week's episode made it explicit: they flagged it up front with a loud guitar-based musical quotation from Beethoven.

I reckon the classic example must be Blink, though, where Tennent-Dr reads his half of a conversation so it can be recorded and lead Sally Sparrow to the answer...

Date: 2015-10-14 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
Yes - it turned out to be a story about the use of the bootstrap paradox more than a story using the bootstrap paradox.

I confess, I'm not loving the guitar playing.

Date: 2015-10-14 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] f4f3.livejournal.com
TBH, I didn't like this two parter - confusing, over-explained, too many corridors, too much running.

However. I still like Peter Capaldi as the Doctor. I find Clara easy to ignore. And the guitar works for me.

As to your time-travelling critics, aren't we all, when we use retrospectovision?

Date: 2015-10-14 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com
I have always been fond of Steven Fry's view that the best time to be alive is now - we have all the comforts of home in the best century so far to live in and can imagine ourselves to be any other when we like.

I confess I'm not loving the guitar. I don't hate it. Just not really loving it.

I'm just glad to have discrete two-parters again - with a begining, a middle and an end and a bit of science fiction and fewer characters who Adjective Nouns.

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