danieldwilliam: (machievelli)
danieldwilliam ([personal profile] danieldwilliam) wrote2013-04-10 02:55 pm

On Thinking About Extreme Democracy

I'm thinking about participatory democracy and wondering if riots counts.
andrewducker: (Default)

[personal profile] andrewducker 2013-04-10 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Naah - rioting is a bypassing of democracy, because while the will of _some_ people is expressed, there's no equality in reaching a decision.

Rioting, IMHO, occurs when there is a significant democratic deficit, or where people are unhappy, and believe (rightly or wrongly) that democracy will not fix this.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2013-04-10 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you - that's a helpful comment.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2013-04-10 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I do like that.

That's useful advice in a bundle.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2013-04-10 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
As one of the commentators says, I think the most likely response to the kind of poor leadership that leads to mutinies in static organisations is a mass walk out.

Which is fine if you have somewhere else to go or have valuable transferable skills to take to the market.

[identity profile] f4f3.livejournal.com 2013-04-11 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
In my head rioting is a failure of democracy, or an assertion of anarchy.
If the rioters were getting an outcome they liked from participatory democracy, they wouldn't be rioting.

[identity profile] danieldwilliam.livejournal.com 2013-04-11 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
Which I tend to agree with.